curriebelle:

vohalika replied to your post:

it’s gonna be neat when the Crit Rollers change…

I’m curious! Why do you have Percy as an INTJ and not an ISTJ?

Because….life needs things to life T^T9

I’m actually only half kidding! INTJs tend to be proverb-spouters – they have a talent for summing up conversations in most excellent snappy phrases, although of course there’s much more to it than that.

I assume the ISTJ designation comes from the fact that Percy is very Noble and very much loves being a de Rolo, which one would normally associate with the family-and-tradition streak of ISTJs. The thing is that Percy doesn’t love being blue-blooded so much as he weaponizes it when it benefits him, and he doesn’t really feel any sense of obligation towards the responsibilities of his name. He’s happy to abuse his name if it will, say, insult the “new money” or prank someone more effectively (like how he goes Full Haughty and drags Scanlan through the mud when they’re trying to bust Kaylee out of jail). His inclination towards propriety is bred into him, not inherent (and his disinclination to be touched or hugged, unless it’s by Vex, is very common among INTJs). The person I would tag as ISTJ would be Cassandra. The difference between “remaining Lord of Whitestone despite the fact that you’re last in the line of succession, despite literal vampires and dragons, despite being eighteen and having PTSD, despite everything, because it’s your duty, damnit” and “fleeing Whitestone to regroup and come back with a machine you made for the purpose of vengeance, thereby executing a scheme you have been stewing on for five years” is pretty representative of the difference between an ISTJ and an INTJ. Moreover Percy basically only uses Whitestone as a base for his inventions once it’s at peace again. He spent the entire skip year inventing steam power in Whitestone and early warning systems for Eman.

And “inventing” is the key word here; Percy constantly sees the potential in things, looking at what they could be rather than what they are. You could credit the guns to Orthax, in part, but Percy’s made so much more than that – jewelry, traps, modifications to the guns, Diplomacy, and Bad News, just to name a few. (Historically speaking, because they think about untested solutions to problems, lots of inventors and scientists have been INTJs). Percy thinks far ahead into the future, worrying about what his guns will mean a hundred years from now, a thousand years from now. That’s INTJ big-picture far-future perspective. “I live as long as Whitestone lives” is INTJ perspective: he is his works, his creations, and he lives through them. I once knew an INTJ very, very well, and when I asked her if she would choose to be immortal, she said yes – because it would give her the time to learn all the things she wanted to learn, and do all the ideas in her head justice. Their immortality is in their works, even if that is morally reprehensible immortality. Percy’s casual, lofty self-deprecation is also very INTJish, by the way – they perceive their own flaws as facts that they must simply accept, in a way that doesn’t necessarily hurt their feelings, but does stick them with a perfectionist streak and deeply-nested doubt. You hear lots of INTJs worry about whether they are robots or cruel or bad people – a worry that Percy frequently expresses. I have some back-and-forth doubts about my types for everyone else in Vox Machina, but Percy is pretty much the one I’m 100% on. Ni-Te to the max.

(Disclaimer: I dabble in this. Like. You seem way more qualified. I’m just going from what I’ve read and stuff and haven’t been doing this for long.) Compelling points, though I do disagree a bit with the
perspective on Percy’s sense of duty. He skipped a goddamn trip into the
Feywild to stay at home and do his part during the timeskip. Well, and
depending on how you interpret revenge, the whole Orthax deal might have
only happened because of what he felt he had to do. In a way. But
that’s a chicken and egg scenario.

On a related note, the “I live as longe as Whitestone lives” is less about his inventions – there are none of his inventions at Whitestone when that line is spoken – and more about his family name, history, and legacy there, which is, I feel, more important to him than living on through his creations. He very much would have liked for the guns to die with him, after all.

(I’m also pretty sure Percy would turn down immortality. For both obvious reasons and just from a philosophical standpoint.)

Meh, I might be projecting a bit,
because I identify with a LOT about Percy and I’m about as ISTJ as they come. Then again, come to think of it, he is also just so… Inefficient about things at times. And absolutely has a bit of a romantic streak, despite the computing issues. It’s probably the key point of connection between him and Keyleth, who I’d absolutely type as INFP.

Another thing that really struck me as more of an ISTJ thing was his way of handling his anger at Scanlan. The complete refusal to admit that he got his feelings hurt by trying to rationalize it all down to how he’s upset because Scanlan took things with him. A nice, rational, objective reason to be mad, far removed from emotions and stuff. Struck a chord with me, is what I’m saying.

(Also I’m pretty sure Vex would be an ESTJ, and I kind of liked the symmetry there and with Keyleth, but I know that’s like extremely superficial and all.)

ledamemangociana:

stop saying that the twins’ last name is “Vessar” and ppl are just forgetting.

no one has forgotten – the twins just aren’t using it, and with good reason. it’s the surname of a father who was negligent and cold at best, abusive at worst. it’s no surprise they wouldn’t want to identify with him, or that they don’t feel like they belong in his family enough to be identified by his last name. 

stop trying to tack it onto them if they don’t want to use it. it’s not what they want their identities to be. they don’t want to be Syldor Vessar’s children, because he and his people made them (especially Vex) feel like they shouldn’t be.

“okay but taryon’s dad is an asshole too and he’s still using the last name” YEAH COZ THAT’S HIS CHOICE, which itself has a goal (he wanted to bring his own honor to the Darrington name, and now he’s trying to clean up the Darrington name), just as it is the twins’ choice to not use their father’s last name. respect that choice.

don’t reblog ppl’s gifsets saying “but their last name is Vessar, are ppl just really that forgetful lol” because a) no, b) NO, and c) you just look like an arrogant asshole when you do that, even if you do it with the best of intentions.

There’s a reason the cast called them “Mr. and Mrs. ‘ahlia”.