“Ioun is
quite a goddess though, and she doesn’t respect secrets.”

Aka yes, I
am going to be that person.

Ioun does
not like secrets. Which is why the entire quest to gain her favor involved getting
a book that was locked away. Which is why you sought her out to find out about
a ritual that had been kept secret. Which is why she locked herself away in
secrecy.

Which is
why she chose someone who quite frequently lies, deceives, and uses his
knowledge to run a criminal organization, who fucks around with memories for
personal gain or amusement as her champion. Yes. All of this adds up.

And yes, maybe I’ve spent too much time talking about this to see it clearly at this point, but like… Man. I feel like this was more due to Matt’s perception of how certain classes are supposed to be played rather than how the characters actually are played.

Yeah, sure, Bards are supposed to carry and impart knowledge and pass it on and tell your story. But as someone else aptly pointed out, Keyleth lives on to tell the story, Tary writes the Ember Island Players version, and Scanlan writes the porn parody.

The character of Scanlan as played so far is not a lore bard, he’s a troll bard. Nothing wrong with that! But also, wasn’t it part of his crisis that he always felt like the teller of stories, but never like part of it? Or is confirming the characters’ worst fears about themselves just what gods do at this point? I mean, Vex felt unworthy there for a second, and Percy has just been gobsmacked in the face by two goddesses now.

And I knoooow he seems fine. He says he’s fine. Vex says she’s fine with what Scanlan said to her before he left, too. This kind of reads the same?

And especially after Ioun just brought up redemption seconds before choosing her champion, this just… Yeah, sorry Percy, you’re unworthy of this, too, you secret keeping mad man, you. Of course Percy would take that in stride; it’s what he’s always believed about himself to begin with.

This sucks even more considering that they apparently really have to get going now. The trip to Kord was just turned down flat. No one even brought up Melora, or a suitable god for Percy. Maybe Moradin might be something to look into, but, you know, that’d be kind of weird. Taking the god of dwarves for anyone non-dwarven. I can see that work out for Grog, though, given his dwarven beard and hammer, because random loot is now totes relevant when tying people to gods.

Ugh. And I know this will be a none-issue. I knooow. Still.

And I hold that it doesn’t really fit Scanlan, either. If anything, Ioun represents what a bard is supposed to be, even though there should be a separate god for music and performance. If you wanted to make it about his character and his journey, give him a god of family or something. It’s like back when the quest for Scanlan’s vestige involved solving a riddle. Which was ultimately solved by Percy.

Also, secrets as the disqualifying thing? Just. No. I did the math. When you go by secrets, Percy and Scanlan lie and keep to themselves roughly the same amount of things. Just that most of the time, Percy has a good reason, whereas Scanlan just wants to fuck with people. Gah. I’ll probably write all of this out properly at some point, I’m just really kind of upset by this.

(Sprigg saying goodbye to Percy with the “I’m going to think of you when I read these books.” kind of moved me to tears, though. And Percy and Keyleth talking about fuck the gods and fuck destiny was perfect.)

Something fun to think about:

The same people calling for Marisha to leave the show in the youtube comments, or spewing hate, I’m sorry, “constructive criticism” about Keyleth as a character are usually the ones claiming the entire show would fall apart without Sam or Travis.

Guess what. Sam and Travis have missed several episodes, and it all went over fine. Every single player has missed an episode or two, and there was no noticeable decline in quality. Except for Marisha, that is. She has a perfect attendance record.

Just something for your consideration.

2, 3, 4 & 6 for the critical questions!

2. Which episode is your least favorite? Why?

27 for all the aggression and uncomfortable-ness at the table. I’m also not really fond of the Underdark arc in general, and have watched it too few times to really be able to tell the episodes apart. I can’t think of any other specific episodes I dislike, though, but I will say that I prefer plot over shenanigans, so 26 and 36 aren’t that high up in my list either.

3. Who is your favorite main player character?

Vex! Vex is love, Vex is life, Vex is also basically what I want to be when I grow up. Percy is very consistently in second place, the order after that depends on who died that week or how much hate Marisha is getting again.

4. Who is your favorite guest player character?

Oh boy. Uh. Well. Sprigg was great, but I’m going to wait for how that plays out before giving him a place on the list. Lionel is up there. Kash and Zahra don’t even count the same way Gilmore and Viktor don’t count for favorite NPC. I will say that I have a weak spot for Shale. There are too few badass sassy old ladies out there.

6. Who would you like to see guest on the show?

Well, I mean, Lin Manuel Miranda is an obvious choice. As is Stephen Colbert. Who I am impatiently waiting for though is Jennifer Hale, voice of fem!Shep and Krem and guest star on All Work, No Play, and someone who has been talking with Matt on twitter about finally getting a part. I like her voice a lot.

So according to Darin, the only reason Sprigg figured he had a connection to Scanlan was because of the both being gnomes part, and halfway through he realized that the real connection was kind of happening with Keyleth. He didn’t mention Ioun once during that explanation.

Seems like we again overestimated the amount of planning Matt includes the other players in. That probably also means that the nicknames were Darin’s own opinions on the characters from the way he watched the show and don’t necessarily reflect how Matt thinks about them. Oh well. More than another week to stew on this.

Something apparently got lost during the Taryon Discourse of episode 94; you can basically see on Sam’s face how this episode, this evening in the tavern before, you know, things happen, is the exact moment in which Tary develops his feelings for Percy. It kind of hurts to watch actually, because you can also tell how completely oblivious Percy is to the effect he has on Tary. That year living together in Vex’s house must have been aaawkwaaard…

pagerunner-j:

I saw a couple comments today from people who felt like Percy’s had too much focus in the CR storyline already, particularly as compared to Scanlan, and I admittedly sighed a bit, although I also had Thoughts. To back up and kinda process them:

– Everyone at the table started with well-drawn characters, but going from those original intro bits, Percy clearly had the most narrative baked in from day one. Taliesin didn’t force it when it came to gameplay; it was there in the backstory and could have stayed there forever, un-investigated in favor of other quests. But Matt took it and ran with it, because let’s be honest, it was interesting, and a great excuse for him to build out that chunk of the world. You can’t really blame him for grabbing that particular gun off the mantel. You can observe, fairly, that not too many of the players put one that shiny up there to play with in the first place.

– On that note, it’s still kind of ironic that Scanlan’s big blowup centered on the other characters not caring about his personal life, because it may have been true, but a lot of that’s on him for not sharing. And I’m honestly still curious how much of that was a long-term in-character choice, and how much of it developed at a meta level because of planning decisions one way or another on Sam’s part. Scanlan wasn’t always played terribly seriously (let’s not forget that his character origin was basically “how do I make the most ridiculous character ever? Okay: GNOME BARD!”), and the path forward from that and into more serious matters could easily have been “we never delved into more than this. Well, let’s make the issue be the fact that we never delved into this.” Either way, Scanlan became a meatier character (ahem) later in the game, but in the earlier stretches there was simply less to build from, and especially in a group that big and that busy, you’ve also got to assume that everyone’s going to go for the big, shiny plot points and that more subtle matters or unspoken problems won’t really get noticed.

– In comparison, Tary got more character development in a handful of episodes than Scanlan got over much longer chunks of time, because everyone played it very differently. It was sort of inevitable since it was a new character to figure out, and that’s going to draw a lot of focus, plus a lot of playing with the new dynamic since of course that’s an interesting upheaval for everyone. He was also on a bit of a timer, although his stay was longer than I think anyone planned. But good lord, was the approach with Tary different from Scanlan. We had all of his family drama and personal goals and conflicts fully drawn and presented right up front, with a lot for everyone to get their teeth into, and it was great.

– Not coincidentally, I came to like Tary a lot. I miss him, and am sad.

– I’m not sure if I have a conclusion to this except to say that character and story development are both goddamn interesting and can happen in a lot of ways and at different paces. That doesn’t mean it’s a competition. It does mean bring shit to the table, because otherwise nothing’s gonna grow.

– …I did not mean to make that a compost metaphor. On the other hand, I feel like Scanlan would approve.

Yes, exactly! All of this! When Matt has to scramble for bits and pieces to get a plot hook going, not much of a plot hook is going to develop there. And given the sparse backstory Scanlan gave, a daughter and his former travelling troupe as recurring characters is actually plenty. There’s not much more story you can develop from there.

Goblins aren’t very likely to target you after they kill your mother. They’re little pests who don’t bother who gets away as long as they get their loot. They might pop up in a campaign and your might get to kill a few for vindication, but that’s it. Those were the two points Scanlan brought to the table for story development. Both of those came up.

This is actually a pretty common problem, but except for Pike, all of the other characters did have more narratively rich conflict in their backstories. The twins had their father and a dragon. Grog had a roaming herd of goliaths. Keyleth had a very clearly defined journey to take. Same with Tibs, had he stuck around long enough.

The dad happened to be around even pre-campaign, the dragon was, you know, a dragon, the herd became relevant, and Kiki took her journey. Matt tries to incorporate all of these things. It’s just that attaching your character to a political plot in a town they have a claim to and also releasing guns in the world is going to come up more. And even Percy’s development and screentime pales in comparison to what Vax just happens to stumble into on a regular basis (and then purposefully exclude others, especially Vex, from, but that is reeaaally not something to get into here).

So yeah, the story was designed in such a way that everything the players brought to the table in regards to backstory eventually paid off one way or another. Some brought more to the table, others just got… The opposite of lucky, and here we are.

Literally the only real slight against Scanlan I can see on a narrative level is that he was just handed his vestige. Even Pike at least got to travel somewhere for hers.

The only ways I can see this having a good fall out is, one of the two halfway through the conversation with Ioun going, “Yeah, you’re great and all, but no thanks” and it being a deliberate character choice to REFUSE Ioun. Or Ioun telling Percy, “I’m flattered, but seriously, Erathis called first dibs on you when you were a kid, and I’ve already been convalescing for 800 years, I don’t want to piss her off.” Or her telling Scanlan his better-fit deity. Whoever that is.

Ha! I am on board with all of these options. Especialy with Erathis calling dibs. Yes, please.