vohalika replied to your post:
it’s gonna be neat when the Crit Rollers change…
I’m curious! Why do you have Percy as an INTJ and not an ISTJ?
Because….life needs things to life T^T9
I’m actually only half kidding! INTJs tend to be proverb-spouters – they have a talent for summing up conversations in most excellent snappy phrases, although of course there’s much more to it than that.
I assume the ISTJ designation comes from the fact that Percy is very Noble and very much loves being a de Rolo, which one would normally associate with the family-and-tradition streak of ISTJs. The thing is that Percy doesn’t love being blue-blooded so much as he weaponizes it when it benefits him, and he doesn’t really feel any sense of obligation towards the responsibilities of his name. He’s happy to abuse his name if it will, say, insult the “new money” or prank someone more effectively (like how he goes Full Haughty and drags Scanlan through the mud when they’re trying to bust Kaylee out of jail). His inclination towards propriety is bred into him, not inherent (and his disinclination to be touched or hugged, unless it’s by Vex, is very common among INTJs). The person I would tag as ISTJ would be Cassandra. The difference between “remaining Lord of Whitestone despite the fact that you’re last in the line of succession, despite literal vampires and dragons, despite being eighteen and having PTSD, despite everything, because it’s your duty, damnit” and “fleeing Whitestone to regroup and come back with a machine you made for the purpose of vengeance, thereby executing a scheme you have been stewing on for five years” is pretty representative of the difference between an ISTJ and an INTJ. Moreover Percy basically only uses Whitestone as a base for his inventions once it’s at peace again. He spent the entire skip year inventing steam power in Whitestone and early warning systems for Eman.
And “inventing” is the key word here; Percy constantly sees the potential in things, looking at what they could be rather than what they are. You could credit the guns to Orthax, in part, but Percy’s made so much more than that – jewelry, traps, modifications to the guns, Diplomacy, and Bad News, just to name a few. (Historically speaking, because they think about untested solutions to problems, lots of inventors and scientists have been INTJs). Percy thinks far ahead into the future, worrying about what his guns will mean a hundred years from now, a thousand years from now. That’s INTJ big-picture far-future perspective. “I live as long as Whitestone lives” is INTJ perspective: he is his works, his creations, and he lives through them. I once knew an INTJ very, very well, and when I asked her if she would choose to be immortal, she said yes – because it would give her the time to learn all the things she wanted to learn, and do all the ideas in her head justice. Their immortality is in their works, even if that is morally reprehensible immortality. Percy’s casual, lofty self-deprecation is also very INTJish, by the way – they perceive their own flaws as facts that they must simply accept, in a way that doesn’t necessarily hurt their feelings, but does stick them with a perfectionist streak and deeply-nested doubt. You hear lots of INTJs worry about whether they are robots or cruel or bad people – a worry that Percy frequently expresses. I have some back-and-forth doubts about my types for everyone else in Vox Machina, but Percy is pretty much the one I’m 100% on. Ni-Te to the max.
(Disclaimer: I dabble in this. Like. You seem way more qualified. I’m just going from what I’ve read and stuff and haven’t been doing this for long.) Compelling points, though I do disagree a bit with the
perspective on Percy’s sense of duty. He skipped a goddamn trip into the
Feywild to stay at home and do his part during the timeskip. Well, and
depending on how you interpret revenge, the whole Orthax deal might have
only happened because of what he felt he had to do. In a way. But
that’s a chicken and egg scenario.On a related note, the “I live as longe as Whitestone lives” is less about his inventions – there are none of his inventions at Whitestone when that line is spoken – and more about his family name, history, and legacy there, which is, I feel, more important to him than living on through his creations. He very much would have liked for the guns to die with him, after all.
(I’m also pretty sure Percy would turn down immortality. For both obvious reasons and just from a philosophical standpoint.)
Meh, I might be projecting a bit,
because I identify with a LOT about Percy and I’m about as ISTJ as they come. Then again, come to think of it, he is also just so… Inefficient about things at times. And absolutely has a bit of a romantic streak, despite the computing issues. It’s probably the key point of connection between him and Keyleth, who I’d absolutely type as INFP.Another thing that really struck me as more of an ISTJ thing was his way of handling his anger at Scanlan. The complete refusal to admit that he got his feelings hurt by trying to rationalize it all down to how he’s upset because Scanlan took things with him. A nice, rational, objective reason to be mad, far removed from emotions and stuff. Struck a chord with me, is what I’m saying.
(Also I’m pretty sure Vex would be an ESTJ, and I kind of liked the symmetry there and with Keyleth, but I know that’s like extremely superficial and all.)
At least we 100% agree on Keyleth being INFP heehee she can be spotted a mile away 😛 Vex I had as ESTP because she’s so obsessed with physical gratification (must fly must steal broom must fly must gET NAKED) which is way more Se than Si (P.S. if you are just dabbling you should check out functions if you haven’t already because they make this easier to understand! 🙂 ), but ESTJ is interesting and I kinda want to think about that a bit more….it is compelling ….that would also make her even less like Vax, which is interesting.
I was going to mention the friendship with Keyleth, because the romantic/hypothetical chats they have very much remind me of two loopy intuitors having a brain wander together c: The other thing is that Percy has a lot of backstory baggage that informs his decisions more than his type does – so I think his noble name and his trauma hang over his head a lot, and he might act differently without them. Like, I’d argue that turning down something you want because you’re busy with projects is more just a sign of discipline than being an ISTJ – and INTJs are very disciplined too. Same thing with the anger: INTJs love work their feelings through logically, and they typically shut themselves away to do so.
Regardless, I’m not surprised you relate to Percy lots, because ISTJs and INTJs are similar in some ways – I mean technically I’m the same type as Scanlan, but I relate to Tary in a lot of ways as well because his type is similar (Scanman and me are ENTPs, and I think Tary is ENFP? Maybe? Tary is hard. people are hard :P).
I mean, I feel like must fly and must get naked are less about physical gratification, and more about get shit done now god dammit, in the most efficient way possible. Shooting from a vantage point is just the best way to go about it (physical gratification nonwithstanding). This idiot has been dragging shit out to long, so let’s just cut straight to the point! (physical gratification entirely circumstantial).
And then I guess you’d agree on Vax being an ENFP?
And to be fair, as much as I identify with Percy, Vex will forever be kind of a perfect mirror of me without social issues, though that’s probably all nurture more than nature, same with how the entire backstory trauma demonic possession thing makes getting a “pure” read on Percy without the environmental factors close to impossible, like the whole chicken and egg thing (stupid analogy, btw, clearly eggs were there first, just not laid by chickens. Ugh.).
I do know about subfunctions and how they work and that they make cute little syllable pairs, but I currently have no brain capacity to learn what syllable goes with what by heart. Once I’m done with that law degree, maybe 😀
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